Just curious, I have a 1 year old purebred blue Doberman and he has blue eyes. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. She lay in the floor next to him and I would catch her cleaning his face. We have had dobermans for 20 yrs . That means a very shallow gene pool to start out with. While they may appear striking they have skin problems and are prone to sun burn. Sickly dogs produce sickly pups, I wonder why its supposed to be ok to breed a unhealthy black and tan doberman but not a healthy white one? i have a dobe,her father is black and his mother is red.how did my dobe becomes golden brown?i mean pure golden brown.i searched the web but i can’t find answers…please someone give ideas about this…thanks!!! Please do not spay or neuter your pets. Both my blues r absolutely beautiful. I do have a serious issue with destroying White Doberman pups at birth. Religious bashing is rude. Being out on the street to cause a problem or die a painful death. Do not let smooth talking greeders convince you. My red/rust has a bladder issue and is on daily Proin. are there any kinds of toys or things i can leave in that would give him the stimulation that i have heard they need while im at work? Wrong!! The blue and white are both puppies from are black and tans it is in there back ground so what are you trying to say these puppies don`t deserve to live what kind of animal lover are you You know who you are. He is not fixed, and he is very unagressive accept to male dogs who barge into his territory. Thank You!! . Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. And because they’re such loyal and fearless dogs, Dobermans make some of the world’s best police dogs. I think the main point about white Dobermans is that they should rarely be bred from both white parents. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. For example, Color Dilution Alopecia, can happen to all blue dogs and not just blue Dobes. The two girls together are amazing. Other than that and some skin issues (common) she is beautiful and healthy. The DPCA accepts 4 colors as standard: black, blue, red and fawn. He got all the best traits of each breed but especially the goofy tendencies Dobies can have. In my eyes, it’s a crime to nature to breed anything like that. The Blue Doberman isn’t blue, really. hello I want buy the 5 Doberman with the 5 different color can you help me to buy this puppy from the best quality and best price can you offer me the best club or if you have this puppy sale to me please help me please sent a message to me via my email:firstname.lastname@example.org. My Silver Doberman By: Shelby & Gemma. only bred to look americanized for the show.. And nothing like what they wer origanly bred for. Fantastic dogs. They don’t call them Velcro dogs for nothing , in the 40 or so years Doberman’s have owned me I have never went to the bathroom alone , they are always at my side. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. As a result, this color variety of the Dobe has been unofficially called the gray Doberman as well. If just to get it away from you and whatever this “white” thing you have is not visited upon the animal. I have a complete red Doberman. Idiot! Do not attempt to make it yourself! The Cream/white Doberman has been around since the early years also. Your Doberman will be fine. They are not standard. Yup, did not think it wise to have a pup, but then life happens. You should come to Alaska, Most of the year the environment is white white white LOL! She’s 11 now, and still going strong. good people raise good dogs. Seriously: Seek help. As far as loving them as a dog, absolutely. standing up for the standard is what keeps our dobes as wonderful as they are… furthering a trait that isn’t considered “correct” (yeah … if you love them its correct) then you might as well cross that awesome dobe with that great confirmation intelligence and temperament with a mutt. You have no idea what your talking about regarding White Dobermans. “The white doberman pinscher was created from inbreeding and are considered partial albino dobermans.” This statement does NOT say “all PARTIAL albino dobermans are created from inbreeding.” nor does state “all white dobermans are FULL albino.” Any animal created from inbreeding is prone to health issues. NO health issues or behavioral issues at all! Take a look! Oversize in both the US and in Europe. They have so many health issues. They should have a photo of. The correct term for this is actually “partial albino.”. We now have a 1 yr old Red female Jordan and we will soon be getting a female red puppy Reagan. Just remember to ALWAYS monitor children with dogs. It means they are subject to more possible health problems and should not be used for breeding. Her daughter has taken over the kennel and is just as driven to support the White Dobermans and the Doberman Pinscher, as a breed, in whole. As for good foods there are so many nowadays. Jan 28, 2020 - Explore Rebecca Richmond-Porter's board "Blue Doberman", followed by 106 people on Pinterest. not the cause, no, but a symptom of a cause. Being sent to an abusive or unstable home 2. and please stop guilt trapping people into picking a shelter pet. With the addition of the dilute gene in our thinking, Doberman coat color becomes more complex. Just because you read one article, dont take it for fact. Not only is the white Doberman not albino, but ALL health problems that have been found in white dobermans can be found in other colors as well except for skin sensitivity which is found in all short haired white dogs. I would say it’s do-able with certain preparation. The German, or Euro, Dobermans are produced with intentions focused on the “working/security’ dog, as intended by Louis Doberman. His left front leg had all the parts it was supposed to but in a mixed up order! That’s the main goal of AKC, UKC, CKC and any other kennel clubs. Please learn proper grammar. Just adopted a red/Rust 20 month old male and would like another Dobbie. albino from parents with no albinistic mutations), but they are very, VERY rare. i have owned dobermans for over 40 yrs and i can remember when this prejudice existed for the isabellas and the blues. This will continue to happen due to the affluent culture and the preferences of people. The word “Inbreeding” is thrown around as if it was a curse word. Sometimes the mutation is harmful, sometimes it is not. Best dog I ever had. They are done with little to no health testing as well as little to no titling. In fact, they come in at least 9 beautiful colors! Listed as white only because albino is not a color. And the markings show more as they age. If you’re talking with a breeder that does breed these dogs, I would be very cautious doing business with them. He has no signs of cancer. your arguments are the same bullshit that the DPCA has been touting for years. That is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries and a mans testicles without their consent. Btw the title says ‘The 5 Doberman Colors And The One To Avoid’ – but the arcticle says that there is TWO we should avoid. They are very protective and loyal. Love your dog and I will Love mine! So learn more before spouting off. I’ve been reading the whole situation about the albino dobermans. Its all about the buck and nothing to do with bettering the breed as a whole. You were spot on and I totally agree with you! They have long hair coats and they are referenced in the books as well. Learn More. It does that to almost everybody. What is so different with these? She was urinating a lot more than the Golden Doodle we purchased at the same time. Some of which, can be serious and lead to severe health problems in the future. The evolution of dogs is extremely rapid and at the descretion of their human counterparts. The reason for the “blue-ish” color is because they’ve inherited copies of the dilute recessive gene. Ive come into contact with a white before and I fell in love but I dont really know where to look. Her first visit to the vet we were told she has allergies, she had a double ear infection and two types of worms. An owner of an Albino should realize that they need to spay or neuter the animal as soon as possible. Andreawong.email@example.com. Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure. Oh, wait ~ It must be your words put together in a sentence that are just stupid. However, in a family environment, they’re an equally great watchdog and protector of the home. I lost my best friend 2 and a half years ago. In truth, there are various factors involved that may have deemed one dog bad, while another dog even from the same litter, but who has never been subjected to the same issues. Just like with other solid colored Dobermans, a solid red Doberman isn’t very common. All breeds of everything has standards, standards change over time. But it will be years down the road. }. Because of Sheba and a lot of inbreeding, we now have many other partial albino Dobermans in the world today. All of our dogs are socialized and do not have temperment problems. Ive owned Dobermans over the years. NO DOG should be put outside like lawn furniture, but a Dobeman willl make your life hell if you think you can do that. The blue Dobermann has the color gene with at least one dominant allele and the dilution gene with both recessive alleles (i.e., BBdd or Bbdd). We have done all the testing that any breeder should do. And health concerns of white Dobermans. Thanks for sharing your story about your sweet girl. A puppy has more physical needs than the average retieree can satisfy. Ie, If a black dog has one partial ablbinism gene, it becomes blue. For those who say albino’s have red eyes, are very misinformed. That’s 100% Doberman. I hope they’ve found him a good home by now. Exactly!! Again you may get lucky and have no issues with your dob now but the percent is huge on these to have extreme health issues. While few have heard of the color, the fawn and rust Doberman is another color coat officially recognized by the American Kennel Club. the dogs aren’t genetical cripples because of the color. Because it has poor vision, the dog is unsure of its surroundings. But not being willing to see there is a problem will not help at all. Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. I totally agree with Dober mom. I must say I came to this site for help and I feel as though I have found out inevitably that my pup will have issues her whole life. Stop. So sad. Because they’re pretty much a solid, all-around brown, this name makes a lot of sense. Bless u for trying anyway. I had never seen a white Doberman before, so I wanted to look them up. Mutt dogs are said to be the best, but this is not always the case. It is usual behaviour by breeders when a new mutations occurs. Thanks for any info. And Marcela Rodriguez, you might want to try fish oil and get your blue in to see a vet and or a dermatologist quickly to try and help his coat. My white/cream girl is perfectly healthy. Come North of Canada. Both children learnt to walk by grabbing two fists full of Cleo and pulled themselves up? And while I have owned only one purebred dog out of a total of eight dogs total (only one of my mutts came from the pound. However we can trace it’s roots back to the late 19th century whence it was bred to halt poachers on gamekeepers land.They tried the English Mastiff; Too passive: poachers got away. i will admit he does squent in direct sunlight but so does every human being. RE: SARAH- please you are uninformed. He’s my 90lb lap dog. BTW, two large studies on cardio (one in the US and one in Europe) have shown that 60 per cent of dobes suffer from the disorder. Cleo.guarded the children from day one and would stop my wife from crossing any road diagonally it was 90 degrees or Cleo would lean on the pram or pushchair so my wife had to follow Cleo’s wishes! We dearly loved all of our girls, their different temperaments and personalities. This is verified by testing By Emily J Walder, VMD, Diplomate, ACVP. These are black Dobermans without the usual rust color markings. If you were to breed I would totally want a solid red pup! But most of them will. TheSmartCanine.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Why should we try to start a new color to a breed we ALREADY have, and make the white dobies we have now suffer with genetic/health problems so that MAYBE one day the white dobie gene pool will be dilluted enough so that they only have the same health problems as the other colored dobermans? If he is healthy I don’t see why not. The population of white tigers is also too small and probably somewhat inbred to realistically test this theory. Though, this can vary among individual blue Dobermans. I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. A friggin moron would say their eyes are just like ours with normal sun sensitivity, she squints so bad in the sunlight, it looks painful. That is why this color is often avoided by breeders, making them less frequently seen. we all know that dobes are very intelligent. She’s beautiful, smart, and a very interesting colour. But if you’re thinking about getting a Doberman Pinscher, then you have some options you may want to consider. I got him from a champion breeder and was hoping for a lot longer life with him. Also don’t give them free rein of the house, maybe just the kitchen or a bedroom, just in case they get into trouble if bored, (use a baby gate). One of my customers told me about a documentary on Netflix called “Petfooled”. That’s you. It was so horrible, but she was always such a love bug and anyone that met her loved and adored our dobe. The white one is hidden if there is a black. I would break in half and give him twice a week in a cracker with peanut butter. They are siblings, obviously not planning on breeding them. All love on four paws. It is not accepted by AKC for show (though the dog can still be registered and bred- although this practice is frowned upon) Although labeling the dogs albino or even partial is a common misunderstanding. They are HEALTHY, Happy, Loving, Stable friends. both allels are white – you get a white puppy (25% chance). Joan thanks for helping this dobe As far as food for upset stomachs, usually vets recommend something like plain rice and chicken. I have never been owned by a “White”, but I’ve been blessed to know several, very, very well. Blue lived a very long life..Very healthy dog..I’m not sure exactly, what the name of the lotion was. Do you history and know why a doberman was ever created then ask urself will my dog do this.. And even if you think your dog will it probaly wont and if it did dit would probably get harmfully injured.. I have two Doberman’s both female a red/rust and white/cream. Black becomes blue, which is actually gray, and red becomes fawn. It’s common knowledge that these white Dobermans tend to have health problems and behavioral issues. Animal shelters are not a reliable source. Evilboo……..you are one mature young lady…respect. our first family dog was a red he grew up with my 3 boys he was a loyal campaign and friend to them. Second major problem and most expensive: woke up one morning and found MoZart wimpering and saw his eyes had changed colors: one was blue, the other a strange greenish color… took him to the emergency vet hospital and found he was suffering from a corneal ulceration :-(. The first recorded albino female, Shebah is not the only white doberman of record. All-black Dobermans are rarely seen but do exist. We post dogs in the usa and canada. Though they’re not as common as their black and rust counterpart, they are definitely highly sought after. oh and Dobermans are the best dogs in the world . He has been checked over by a vet several times and has no vision or health problems. And the blue Doberman is sometimes called a gray Doberman or silver Doberman. White. I want my future Doberman to have the best foundation of development and training, something that I fear I will not be able to provide myself. It is difficult to analyse why the Caucasian colour originated in humans – presumably because melanistic colouration was not particularly needed in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. Several different types available. I wish people would stop talking trash about them when they have never experienced having one. Jun 3, 2019 - Explore Charlene Hicks's board "blue doberman" on Pinterest. Like many Dobermans, they’ll have tan markings around the ears, muzzle, chest, legs, bottom, eyebrows and under the tail. I have had dobes for over 20 years blks, blue, and now white, i must be lucky because my wht dobe is a big lovable dog with no health problems. Both of the latter are in Florida……lots of luck in your search. Now everyone take a moment and let’s think about how long dobs have been around ? I have a white doberman that I adopted from a local, reputable, dobie rescue – Second Chance Dobes. The rumor of health conditions to the melanistic gene are just that; rumors.. No actual evidence has consistently proven so! I believe that Albinos should not be bred but i am not an advocate of euthanizing them. She’s a happy girl, and makes us happy too. Nothing wrong with her at all. Whether a color is “standard” or not doesn’t really matter for most owners. Devastated, hurting, searching to find yet another Dobie for us. Tennessee has a doberman rescue group. Blue Dobermans and fawn Dobermans are both color dilutions. He has the sweetest temperament and is an old soul, he has beautiful blue eyes, loves other dogs, kids, cats and people in general. I now have a black and tan female and a red male both 3 years old that I adopted. I have a fawn male and a white female, who’s previous owner relinquished her to us. He looked kind of like a ghost dog. Wish us luck! Maybe you shudnt even own a dog if you feel they’re , how do I put this, um.. “stuoid”. My male was solid blue for the 1st year of his life n now at the age of 2 he has a very subtle marking where the rust would normally b. People expressed their hateful opinions here and actual owners mostly said that they have healthy white Dobermans. Any reputable Dobe breeder will react with horror at the idea of continued or purposed breeding of these poor dogs. Let us know in the comments section below. There are just to many reports of health risks, and all just so you can have one in a white color. I own a blue doberman. So for example, the sunlight affecting them is a fact, it is much more than causing them to squint or blink a lot. which makes them VERY smart. and I think that whatever the color they are, Doberman are freaking perfect and lovely. I’ve volunteer edo at ASPCAS and many of those dogs have serious physical and emotional issues. Don’t buy into this lie. I mean, AKC and ‘purebred’ dogs are already sick and unhealthy as it is. The local shelter has several purebred dobies waiting to be adopted right now. With regards to the white ‘albino’ Dobermanns, I’m not sure what the hoo-hah is surrounding them? Think I talked to Tabetha. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? Probably not the answer you wanted, but I know DVM’s who will not breed once a year if they cannot come as close as possible to not reproducing these health issues to further weaken the breed. yes the whites are known to have health issues, the blacks seem ok and are rarely found anyway. But the allel can occur spontan and of course, your dogs can be offspring from this white line. What the people have a problem with…. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? Doesn’t matter which color has your doberman, matter is you have a doberman. Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella (fawn) and rust Dobermans. Wish the health on my Black/rust dogs over the years were as good as my Cream/white. Breeding her white dobie would be just as wrong as I would have been, if I had bread my”slightly less than perfect”dobie! Every where I go with Merlin , I am complimented on his manners, temperament, and coat. He’s the sweetest dog ever! A Doberman that is white is not ‘special’ in a good way. As an answer to Sara and all others who think white is cool and don’t believe websites like http://dpca.org/albino/albino_about.htm Sara : there is nothing wrong with white dobermans. Hi There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA… I happened to find her on Craigslist and have been in contact with the owner who is going thru some hard time divorce etc and is moving and not able to take Trinity with her.. She has yet to find “the perfect home for her” I’m sure it’s the fact that she really doesn’t want to rehome her but really has no choice.. I’ve done my best to help but haven’t had much luck. Our girl Porsche is a love bug. The albinos are very hard to take care of i wish people would quit breeding them. Sincerely, CK, If you have any black and rust puppies or know of anyone who does, I’d love to get one. If you ever get a chance to see a German Bred Doberman, be sure to take a lot of photos and video, then compare it to any Dobe bred in the United States. I know of 1 black and tan female that needs a home. In a healthy dog, it looks shiny and sleek. What do you do for a dog with a heart murmur? If you believe that this is not a good practice, then maybe you should educate yourself about WHY there is a reason it is frowned upon. Myself I dont like akc I would rather deal with A.P.R.I. Additional advice to the owners. Never hurts to have all the facts. 4) Pay better attention to grammar, spelling and typing skills. Take your pup home and love it. This site also participates in other affiliate programs and is compensated for referring traffic and business to these companies. I also have 3 reds and 1 black, all healthy. I think all dobermans are very beautiful and after I learned they come in so many colors I became very interested in the melanistic black. My husband and I are both retired. ?She starts her puppy training tonight! I am honored to read your story. Spayed females had 6.5 times higher incidence of all cancers combined compared to intact females, and neutered males had 3.6 times higher incidence than intact males. Haha, just like it’s wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those one’s tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldn’t be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRB’s without the ridge? He is a wonderful family dog.. His only health issue is that he’s had runny eyes (nothing major) since he was a pup. Dogs of both genders neutered or spayed at 6 months or younger had significantly increased odds of developing a behavioral disorder, including separation anxiety, noise phobia, timidity, excitability, submissive urination, aggression, hyperactivity, and/or fear biting. However, the blue color can still be a disqualifier for some dog shows. 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